Legendary Bad Seeds frontman Nick Cave strips away rock star mystique in his latest ABC Australia interview.
Aired on August 12nd and filmed in May – the anniversary of his son Jethro’s passing – Cave’s candid conversation reveals a soul transformed by grief, exploring how personal tragedy has reshaped his world and art. With The Bad Seeds’ new album “Wild God” on the horizon, Cave’s raw reflections offer a glimpse into music forged by profound loss and renewed purpose.
Cave dealt with his first great loss in 2015 when his 15-year-old son, Arthur, tragically fell to his death from a cliff near Brighton. Arthur was one of the twin sons Cave shares with his wife, Susie. The sorrow deepened in 2022 when Cave’s eldest son, Jethro Lazenby, passed away at 31.
The tragedies have profoundly altered Cave’s perspective on life and art.
“That idea that art trounces everything, it just doesn’t apply to me anymore,” he said. “Rather than making me bitter, it did the opposite in some way. It made me much more connected to people in general.”
“There is the initial cataclysmic event [where] we eventually rearrange ourselves so that we become creatures of loss as we get older, [and] this is part of our fundamental fabric of what we are as human beings. We are things of loss. This is not a tragic element to our lives but rather a deepening that brings incredible meaning.”
Cave’s journey through grief has led to a remarkable transformation in his artistic approach and personal philosophy. Once consumed by a monastic dedication to his craft, he now views his earlier self-absorption with a critical eye: “For most of my life I was just sort of in awe of my own genius, you know, and I had an office and would sit there and write every day and whatever else happened in my life was peripheral. This just collapsed completely and I just saw the folly of that, the kind of disgraceful self-indulgence of the whole thing.”
In the wake of his sons’ deaths, Cave found an unexpected lifeline in his relationship with the public, particularly through his website, The Red Hand Files. This platform, where he answers personal and often heart-wrenching questions from fans, has become a vital connection to the outside world.
“It was also a kind of lifeline for me that reached out and collected up these people. It’s something that’s just allowed me to remain open to the world rather than shut down,” he said.
“There’s a great beauty in The Red Hand Files that, you know, it’s an extreme privilege to be receiving these letters from people. It’s this bizarre opportunity for people to indulge to some degree in their grief.”
The Bad Seeds are set to release their new album, Wild God, on August 30th. Co-produced by Warren Ellis and mixed by David Fridmann, the album promises a daring blend of convention and experimentation, with Cave’s haunting narratives at its core.
The third single, “Long Dark Night,” offers a glimpse into the dark beauty that Wild God is set to deliver.
